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they know the truth and can tell a liar when they see one. >> now, what about president obama saying he wants to lower the corporate tax rate on manufacturing to 25%? what does that mean for workers? >> well, whatever it does, ed, we can help create more jobs in this country. what i like what he said about basically, we're going to reward people that put jobs here in america and we're going to make sure the tax is an incentive for people who send american jobs overseas. something that mitt romney has done. he did that at bain and sent jobs overseas. >> what was your response when romney was talking about he's been in business for 25 years, he didn't know anything about incentives for shipping jobs overseas? what was your reaction to that? >> well, again, it's this lie after lie. it's hard to debate somebody when he takes one position on his website, one position during the campaign and gets on television and completely changes it. he knows there's all kinds of incentives to have people move offshore. that's what's wrong with our trade policy. we have to get rid of those and basically
they know the truth and can tell a liar when they see one. >> now, what about president obama saying he wants to lower the corporate tax rate on manufacturing to 25%? what does that mean for workers? >> well, whatever it does, ed, we can help create more jobs in this country. what i like what he said about basically, we're going to reward people that put jobs here in america and we're going to make sure the tax is an incentive for people who send american jobs overseas. something...
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but i don't think it tells us much that many people didn't already think about president obama. he has become much more sophisticated in these arguments. but i think at the end of the day, he is making a similar argument today, high is, effect in effect, pretty open about the class warfare argument. it is not as explicit, but the philosophy is the same. this doesn't surprise me to see this. >> the national attitudes are set on president obottom a. people have seen him come into their living room, ever day for four years. they have a sense of who he is as a person. so as these videos come out, it is going to be hard for them to really shake things up with the independent and swing voters, which are who matters in november. >> it is not only rich and poor, it is black and white as well. he makes specific racial arguems. in ept -- 2002, the time of enron, everybody's talking about enron. he talks about enron, using tax accountants and tax loopholes to make money and -- and... and mistreat employees. he said, it's not the equivalent of dogs and fire hoses, but i am not saying what e
but i don't think it tells us much that many people didn't already think about president obama. he has become much more sophisticated in these arguments. but i think at the end of the day, he is making a similar argument today, high is, effect in effect, pretty open about the class warfare argument. it is not as explicit, but the philosophy is the same. this doesn't surprise me to see this. >> the national attitudes are set on president obottom a. people have seen him come into their...
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he said this tells me now, we know... this is his mentor. now we know in that church 20 years, the church of god damn america. >> yes. here is what i want to know. a very different obama. saying the american government and country is racist. he's making that accusation. i play a tape and part of it nobody has seen before. people -- it's not a problem. what about the media? why won't they see the news in this? >> they see the news in it. and there is so -- by the way he paid the price for. the reason, one of the reasons he lost last night is he is used to the media that he was not used to being attacked and answered and i love the altitude... >> there is a great line. climate change aand this is the funny thing... >> he doesn't know how to answer? >> he was stunned and never have to answer that question. >> and there is -- he was the president. and so... you have to understand the media has the same lens, they believe in race. they don't get it yet. race ain't what it used to be america. right? >> next 35 days i promise you it's going to be h
he said this tells me now, we know... this is his mentor. now we know in that church 20 years, the church of god damn america. >> yes. here is what i want to know. a very different obama. saying the american government and country is racist. he's making that accusation. i play a tape and part of it nobody has seen before. people -- it's not a problem. what about the media? why won't they see the news in this? >> they see the news in it. and there is so -- by the way he paid the...
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consider after passing the campaign law and telling the american people what it was, persuading it about the merits, he let the republicans do that. now it's obama care and it's unpopular because he let that gap be filled by the opposition. >> john, speaking of that 2008 campaign, one of the things that impressed me and i think impressed a lot of people was not just the mail and the messages and the ads out of the obama campaign, but the actual perception they were running an effective campaign and he was an effective leader because of that campaign. does that typically persuade voters, the perception of a good campaign? >> i think it does. it suggests he can manage a big undertaking because a presidential campaign is large and messy, trust me. he managed it with great success in 2008. beating hillary clinton, coming out of nowhere, defeating john mccain. there were very few mistakes common about bitter and guns and religion in pennsylvania was certainly one mistake. he didn't make very many mistakes that whole time. >> john, putting bad campaigners aside for a minute, let's talk about r
consider after passing the campaign law and telling the american people what it was, persuading it about the merits, he let the republicans do that. now it's obama care and it's unpopular because he let that gap be filled by the opposition. >> john, speaking of that 2008 campaign, one of the things that impressed me and i think impressed a lot of people was not just the mail and the messages and the ads out of the obama campaign, but the actual perception they were running an effective...
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obama did not look to the future. he did not tell americans how he is going to improve the economy. while governor romney said flat out that he wants to put more american dollars into the marketplace by cutting taxes. even if you disagree with that at least it's a strategy. mr. obama no strategy other than staying the course which is a disaster. that's why mitt romney won. reaction to to the debate was fascinating. our pal al gore blamed the president's weak performance on the altitude in denver. >> i'm going to say something controversial here. obama arrived in denver at 2:00 p.m. today. just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet. >> exactly. >> and you only have a few hours to adjust. >> that's interesting. >> i don't know. >> bill: was mr. gore high when he said that. some obama supporters simply declared victory. >> i think the president won on poise, won on grace. he won on substance. mitt romney came to play hard ball. it showed mitt romney was on the att offensive. at the same time he didn't really land any big
obama did not look to the future. he did not tell americans how he is going to improve the economy. while governor romney said flat out that he wants to put more american dollars into the marketplace by cutting taxes. even if you disagree with that at least it's a strategy. mr. obama no strategy other than staying the course which is a disaster. that's why mitt romney won. reaction to to the debate was fascinating. our pal al gore blamed the president's weak performance on the altitude in...
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and the obama folks were there, axelrod and cover, messina. they were not telling a good story. they were saying that this doesn't -- this is not definitive. basically it's theatrics. some of this and talking points you heard today. the question is, what it means long-term. clearly the president has set the bar, the expectation is pretty low for debate. lou: and one could be forgiven for thinking that it was, perhaps, i wrote a dope strategy. over a longer time than most people would have expected. but given that, the way in which the left has responded your, i mean, they have been vicious to their own, their leader. this is supposed to be the great one. and he is being treated today, i think by the left in many cases far worse than he has been treated by anyone on the right. >> you're right. ms in b.c., it was quite something to watch some of that coverage. and today congressman rangel said that the president just looked bored, like he did not want to be present. you have people out there saying that. it's obviously not helpful to the campaign. the president tried to bounce bac
and the obama folks were there, axelrod and cover, messina. they were not telling a good story. they were saying that this doesn't -- this is not definitive. basically it's theatrics. some of this and talking points you heard today. the question is, what it means long-term. clearly the president has set the bar, the expectation is pretty low for debate. lou: and one could be forgiven for thinking that it was, perhaps, i wrote a dope strategy. over a longer time than most people would have...
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it's time for mitt romney and president obama to go all in, stop passing the plate, and tell voters how to get them over the hump in saving bucks, because as i see it, both campaigns have more cash than, well, whole countries. the issue's not whether you have enough of it, but what you do with it. the cash on hand is not -- if we learned anything from mitt romney last night is that a debate for which he didn't pay a penny is nothing short of the prices. cash might be king, but you can't be king if you don't get your butt before voters. your fat cat handlers will understand. they want you elected. just say you elect to stay away from them, as far as possible, until you are. charlie, what he makes of all of this because, think about it, more bang for the buck, that is governor romney on a free night with 60 million people potentially watching. >> right. it's ironic his big money people, reported on your show, i believe, last week, they were imploring him to get out more and do -- neil: stop talking to us. >> fundraise, get out there, get paul ryan out there. paul ryan denied it. i believe
it's time for mitt romney and president obama to go all in, stop passing the plate, and tell voters how to get them over the hump in saving bucks, because as i see it, both campaigns have more cash than, well, whole countries. the issue's not whether you have enough of it, but what you do with it. the cash on hand is not -- if we learned anything from mitt romney last night is that a debate for which he didn't pay a penny is nothing short of the prices. cash might be king, but you can't be king...
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so the ad actually works for romney and for obama. don't you think that was an amazing idea i came up with that you did not come up with? >> we had a great discussion while it was running. the ad is similar. the dth c ad is supposed to make -- the dnc ad is supposed to make him look mean and interruptiing. but it is interruptiing romney the whole ad and then it says, mitt romney, he's not nice. but it is a great ad for romney. >> do you think it is being rude? >> no, but everyone calls that a smirk. that's fundamentally wrong. let me show what you a smirk is. that was a stiegle. that's when you stifle a giggle. it looked like obama was thinking about something funny but he couldn't laugh on live tv so he was going like this. >> that's a nose giggle. >> it was a stiggle. >> they have to work on their listening face. the face they make when they are listening to the other person talk. >> that's a great question. >> he finishes his point and then goes like this. he literally looked like he had a crush on obama and was dreaming about him.
so the ad actually works for romney and for obama. don't you think that was an amazing idea i came up with that you did not come up with? >> we had a great discussion while it was running. the ad is similar. the dth c ad is supposed to make -- the dnc ad is supposed to make him look mean and interruptiing. but it is interruptiing romney the whole ad and then it says, mitt romney, he's not nice. but it is a great ad for romney. >> do you think it is being rude? >> no, but...
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. >> i'll tell you something, i am the only person as my pal dana has said, who thinks obama did well. so i know -- >> obama needs to step up his game. don't apologize for him. he's the president of the united states. he deserves to do better than that. >> i don't really believe he -- you really believe obama did well is this. >> yeah, i do. >> let's move on. >> moving on. you probably wondering what's eric bolling's favorite moment was? that is coming up in the next block. we'll have more moments from the debate. and later, reaction from president obama himself, plus you're not going to believe what the president wanted to do with osama bin laden if he was captured alive. we're going to tell you. that's next. stay with us. ♪ . >> back now with more of our favorite moments from last night's debate. we've got to everybody's except eric. should we look at yours first. >> you picked great shots, i wanted to go deeper. i heard something at the very end of the debate when they were making their final closing remarks. listen to president obama. he stumbles, but this really is a peek insid
. >> i'll tell you something, i am the only person as my pal dana has said, who thinks obama did well. so i know -- >> obama needs to step up his game. don't apologize for him. he's the president of the united states. he deserves to do better than that. >> i don't really believe he -- you really believe obama did well is this. >> yeah, i do. >> let's move on. >> moving on. you probably wondering what's eric bolling's favorite moment was? that is coming up in...
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what does all this good-bye stuff tell you? >> obama looks glad it's over. he looks relieved. he doesn't look victorious. romney looks happy and he looks relieved but you can tell that he feels victorious. >> how do you know that barack obama was relieved it was over? what did his face or body tell you? >> just his posture sort of drooped a little bit. he walked over more quickly not because he wanted to be assertive but because he sort of wanted it to be over with, then he goes over to michelle and again, there's this sort of -- it's very, very subtle but this kind of collapsing body language that looks a little bit defeated. romney is showing the opposite. he's doing more of the sort of -- he actually looks -- he loves everyone right now. >> gary tuchman with harvard business school professor amy cuddy. we appreciate it. >>> someone else who was watching the debate closely, alan schroeder, author of "presidential debates, 50 years of high risk tv" and journalism professor in boston, wrote about his take on last night's debate on cnn.com. he joins me now with historical persp
what does all this good-bye stuff tell you? >> obama looks glad it's over. he looks relieved. he doesn't look victorious. romney looks happy and he looks relieved but you can tell that he feels victorious. >> how do you know that barack obama was relieved it was over? what did his face or body tell you? >> just his posture sort of drooped a little bit. he walked over more quickly not because he wanted to be assertive but because he sort of wanted it to be over with, then he...
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when we come back we'll tell you what president obama did right and talk about which pundits and politicians actually got it right before the debate. >> so i have absolute confidence when we get to thursday morning, we'll be shaking our head it's a brand new race. >> cenk: it sucks that he was right. did president obama take it easy on romney because fox has been charging over the last two days he's an angry black man? >> what is happening in new orleans? what is your dollar? where is your money? (vo) john fugelsang sees what happens. >> you know, blaming this economy on barack obama is kinda like blaming your hangover on the guy making breakfast. i like mitt romney but i'm sorry. they guy has flipped more than a crack house mattress. this campaign has become so toxic, beverly hills housewives are now injecting it into their foreheads. (vo) so current gave him a weekly show. >> i love romney's debate style, but i tell you, if i could be that stiff for 90 minutes, i'd ... (vo) we probably won't regret it. alright let's break it down. mom, pop it. ♪ ♪ two inches apart, becky. two inches. t
when we come back we'll tell you what president obama did right and talk about which pundits and politicians actually got it right before the debate. >> so i have absolute confidence when we get to thursday morning, we'll be shaking our head it's a brand new race. >> cenk: it sucks that he was right. did president obama take it easy on romney because fox has been charging over the last two days he's an angry black man? >> what is happening in new orleans? what is your dollar?...
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if you're a voter in toledo, you're saying what is the story they're trying to tell about president obama? i get that they don't like him but what is the strategy here? on the republican side, a reason that the money has slowed down a little bit is that people are disappointed with the overall big picture, strategic. >> i'm sure you don't mean to imply that there's more coordination -- >> i'm trying to imply there's a lot more common sense we've been advertising on our side than they have been doing on their side. >> when i just made that comment to bill, obviously, in a lighthearted way because super pacs, by law, are not allowed to coordinate with the campaigns. >>> the visit comes three weeks after the attack. the day after a newspaper reporter found sensitive documents laying around the site, one talking about a need for increased security days before the attack. that's "out front" next. >>> once mitt romney and paul ryan take the stage we'll go there live. ♪ [ man ] excuse me miss. [ gasps ] this fiber one 90 calorie brownie has all the moist, chewy, deliciousness you desire. mmmm.
if you're a voter in toledo, you're saying what is the story they're trying to tell about president obama? i get that they don't like him but what is the strategy here? on the republican side, a reason that the money has slowed down a little bit is that people are disappointed with the overall big picture, strategic. >> i'm sure you don't mean to imply that there's more coordination -- >> i'm trying to imply there's a lot more common sense we've been advertising on our side than...
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but he did not tell us how. it was extremely frustrating. >> obama did not mention anything about china. he skirted a lot of questions and was never direct to the point. mitt seemed very confident in his actions, seemed to outline everything. if you do not have details to his plans -- number one, i think this, we are doing that, number three, we are doing that. i think we had a very good debate session coming up in the good future. i hope mitt polls through. >> i think both candidates did a good job. i was more impressed with the president and because of that i am getting off the fence and going with the president. i think the moderator could have exercised more control. he kind of let romney cut in and takeover more than he should have. i found obama to be more of -- more believable. >> i was ok with the moderator. he allowed us to see the true personality of the candidates. that is what we need, more of what they really are. >> the debate was not anything really special. i felt that romney was being a bit ridi
but he did not tell us how. it was extremely frustrating. >> obama did not mention anything about china. he skirted a lot of questions and was never direct to the point. mitt seemed very confident in his actions, seemed to outline everything. if you do not have details to his plans -- number one, i think this, we are doing that, number three, we are doing that. i think we had a very good debate session coming up in the good future. i hope mitt polls through. >> i think both...
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a local station tells us how the viewers are responding. >>> fbi investigating the death of u.s. ambassador chris stevens, spent 12 hours at the scene of the attack. u.s. ambassador chris stevens and three others were killed one month ago. attorney general eric holder said the probe has been ongoing and it took till now to visit because of security problems. >>> dedication. dedication to finish the job that they started. so now he is home. >> the final farewell to a marine, 70 years over due. >> i am back here at 5:20 p.m. cooled off today, 10-15 degrees in some places. the weekend is coming, how much cooler could it get? i will let you know. and i don't want this to continue for my daughter. brenda kealing: prop 38 is going to bring a lot of money to our schools. suzan solomon: the money stays at the school site. cade derry: what i would really like to see is that the teachers... that were laid off come back to the school. navaz hurd: a smaller class size. navaz hurd: as a mom i want that. as a teacher i want that. prop 38 is an opportunity of a generation. >>> 70 years but fina
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i'm not here as a surrogate for the obama team, but i am here telling you that you have to decide when you are in a debate how much of your real estate you are going to spend in counteracting the lies of your opponent and how much you want to put forth your plan. the president chose to put forth his plan last night and that's what spent his time on. but certainly there were unanswered lies. >> newt gingrich, you've heard the allegations. apparently barack obama is facing the same problem you faced, is that mitt romney was just telling loads of lies and you can't do anything about it. >> first of all, it's a great honor to have governor granholm quote me and maybe one of the few times she ever does. but it was a very nice thing for her to do. i think what was intriguing, she actually raised a point that i was talking with my friends about today. i get the sense that obama never watched the debates that romney and i had, particularly in florida. even though both my wife and i have said publicly over the last couple weeks if romney arrives as tough, as aggressive with the clarity and the
i'm not here as a surrogate for the obama team, but i am here telling you that you have to decide when you are in a debate how much of your real estate you are going to spend in counteracting the lies of your opponent and how much you want to put forth your plan. the president chose to put forth his plan last night and that's what spent his time on. but certainly there were unanswered lies. >> newt gingrich, you've heard the allegations. apparently barack obama is facing the same problem...
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[applause] it tells me that people in new orleans, they don't care about as much. megyn: that was then presidential candidate barack obama in 2007, suggesting that racism is a relief effort involved for the folks in hurricane katrina. this particular part of his offscreen comments, they got little to no coverage before they were posted on a daily caller.com. the president's deputy campaign manager is calling on the romney campaign to denounce the video, saying that the romney camp needs to stand up and say it was wrong for the daily caller to post the president's comments earlier in the week. take a listen. >> i think that allies to mitt romney are responsible and they should stand up and do the right thing and say that it was irresponsible to do something like that, particularly on the eve of the debate. it was so transparent what they were trying to do. mitt romney has been taking heat for weeks for his comments behind closed doors with his wealthy donors. he didn't care about this country. their answer is to put out eight already public release speech that the p
[applause] it tells me that people in new orleans, they don't care about as much. megyn: that was then presidential candidate barack obama in 2007, suggesting that racism is a relief effort involved for the folks in hurricane katrina. this particular part of his offscreen comments, they got little to no coverage before they were posted on a daily caller.com. the president's deputy campaign manager is calling on the romney campaign to denounce the video, saying that the romney camp needs to...
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. >> i think he'll -- he could have done better. >> i think that president obama is -- needs to put his gloves on and fight back. >> i didn't know what was quite going on as far as, you know, maybe he is dealing with some crisis in the middle east. >> i think maybe he needs to rest. >> again, those were people that showed up for the president's rally in denver. all right. back to the breaking news of the morning. today's september report shows a bunch of things. a dramatic drop of the unemployment rate from 8.1% to 7.8%, the first time it has fallen below 8% since the president took office. so how do we get there? the economy added 114,000 jobs last month but in addition the labor department revised july and august numbers to show that 86,000 more jobs were added than previously thought. total unemployment rose by 873,000 jobs last month. that's the biggest one-month increase in nearly 30 years. and today's report snapped a string of 43 straight months of unemployment over 8%. now there's just one more report, jobs report out before the election. mark zandi is the chief economist for mo
. >> i think he'll -- he could have done better. >> i think that president obama is -- needs to put his gloves on and fight back. >> i didn't know what was quite going on as far as, you know, maybe he is dealing with some crisis in the middle east. >> i think maybe he needs to rest. >> again, those were people that showed up for the president's rally in denver. all right. back to the breaking news of the morning. today's september report shows a bunch of things. a...